Seriously?

6 10 2010

AG and I went to go see the ballet, Jewels, in Houston this weekend. At the same venue, we saw this sign as well. The only time I have had the displeasure of seeing this Dawkins fellow speak made me realize that he is the intellectual equivalent of the college freshman who ended up getting a C in his philosophy class because he kept being a smart ass. Hey Dawkins, 19th century philosophy called, and it says it wants you back.

Why anyone would pay money for that crap is beyond me. I am a better atheist, and I believe in God. Sheesh!


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7 10 2010
Manuel

Here’s a better link http://irrationalatheist.com/

That way you can go directly to the book.

7 10 2010
Manuel

I myself stole this mostly from this blog: voxday.blogspot.com
He’s a protestant but is reasonable (IMO). His book is really good at refuting all the New Atheist garbage with facts and reason and without proselytizing.

7 10 2010
Michael

Didn’t Dawkins say on that Ben Stein ID movie that there was an intelligent designer but that it was aliens.

7 10 2010
Agostino

This is good stuff, Manuel. Mind if I steal it and use it in a sermon sometime?

6 10 2010
Gordie

Ben:

I heard on NPR this morning that Houston has the second largest number of theatre seats for the performing arts. NYC being #1.

Gordie

6 10 2010
Manuel

The best description of these so called New Atheists has been to call them “social autisitics.” They simply have no clue that what they are saying is laughable, has been said much better a thousand times before, and that it is all demonstrably false.
Also makes a distinction between “High Church Atheists” (Dawkins et al. who try desperately to convince you of their position harder than a Pentecostal trying to get you to his Church) and “Low Church Atheists” (reasonable atheists who do not have so many hangups)

6 10 2010
Agostino

John: You’ve got me on that one; I’ve heard of Zeitgeist and Bill Maher, but haven’t yet seen them. I’d retty much dismissed the former thanks to the over-zealous guy who tried to push it on me (long story).

6 10 2010
Ben

Wait… so how was the ballet? I’ve always been somewhat embarrassed to live in Houston. Our performing arts are typically kinda lame.

6 10 2010
Stephen

“Whoever wants to know what the serious objections to Christianity are should ask us.
The unbeliever makes only stupid objections.”

El que quiera saber cuáles son las objeciones graves al cristianismo debe interrogarnos a nosotros.
El incrédulo sólo objeta boberías.

–Nicolás Gómez Dávila

6 10 2010
john burnett

‘Better atheist than he is, and i believe in God’— ah hah hah hah hah hah, rotflol!

Stanley Jaki’s ‘Savior of Science’, by the way, says that only because Judaism, and then Christianity, are opposed to all gods, did science become possible. Herbert Schneidau (Princeton or Columbia, i think) wrote ‘Sacred Discontent’, which turned me on along time ago, to the same effect.

Well, let’s see. Diegesis was pub’d 1829. If that’s our basemark, it’s taken about 200 years for that stuff to really penetrate to the masses (of course, the masses weren’t ready for it even 75 years ago; they were still all going to church). Meanwhile, especially since the 1980s, there’s been a sea change, for instance, in biblical studies that’s making the Bible faaaaaar more interesting than any time in the past 200 years (I am thinking of NT Wright and his clan, among others).

So— what do you think the chances of getting the word out to the masses are *this* time, in less than 200 years? Can we do any better?

Augostino— ‘always had the impression’?? You must not have seen either of ‘Zeitgeist’ or Bill Maher. It would be like the impression left by a large hammer at high velocity stopped by, oh, say your forehead or something. At least, I was kinda stunned. I didn’t think anyone was retailing this kind of drivel any more. But Bernard— ‘a perfectly acceptable religion for the average adolescent male’— what was your impression of Bill Maher, by the way?

6 10 2010
dominic1962

Count me in on that boat as well, I’m a better atheist than Dawkins and I believe in God.

Folks who have illogical hate for religion latch on to any moron that has the gumption to “take on” organized religion. Since most folks have decided not to bother to learn how to think, some ignoramus who can use big words and pseudo-science becomes their idol. Yay stupidity…

6 10 2010
Bernard Brandt

I must say that I was an atheist, from my graduation from American Martyrs Grade School in Manhattan Beach, CA, until perhaps a few months after my graduation from Junipero Serra High School in Gardena, CA, lo these many years ago. One may perhaps place the year of my graduation from the fact that poet, NEA chief (under the Bush administration, alas), and general good guy Dana Gioia graduated from the latter High School a year before I did. Those who may surmise a causal connection between my education from two rather liberal schools and my confessional beliefs may surmise as they wish.

I find atheism to be a perfectly acceptable religion for the average adolescent male. No responsibility, no inconvenient connection between one’s observations of reality and metaphysics, no attempt at a large connection between ethics and origins. But, unless one has an arrested intellectual, emotional, or spiritual development, one must eventually grow up. At least, I had to.

I suppose that this is why I have a grudging admiration for Richard Dawkins. There are few real Peter Pans in the world. He appears to be one of them. Let us leave him to his madness. It must be a fine one.

6 10 2010
Agostino

I’ve always had the impression that a lot of this “New Atheist” stuff was basically the argument from the Diegesis with a little modern science thrown in. You know, the stuff where Christianity was ripped off whole-cloth from Pagan solar cults, turned into a tool for control and manipulation, the world is better off without it, and so on and so forth. Good to know I’m not the only one placing these guys in the 19th century!

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